I am afraid that we'll have to not grant the second, as the basis isn't quite intense enough to cause an Echo - it isn't too horrifically uncommon that people discuss the end of the world, after all!

The first Echo, on the other hand, we will absolutely grant - if we may first ask for a bit of detail in regards to his damage tolerance. For example, what types of injuries would he and would he not be so susceptible to succumbing to?